Is ChatGPT Rotting Our Brains?

Today we're here to answer the big question: is AI making us dumber or just giving us a new way to think? From trolls in our comments to using ChatGPT as a brain-dump, we talk about how we actually use it, why people are so fired up, and whether or not the panic is overblown. 

Expect hot takes.  (TW: We mention the word therapy....)

Note: This episode was recorded before ChatGPT-5 dropped, so the newest updates aren’t covered here. Stay tuned—we’ll get into that soon!

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Chapters

• 0:00 Intro
• 4:44 Calling All AI Police!
• 13:08 Privacy on the Internet
• 15:40 Using AI for Health Analysis
• 22:04 Using Prompts to Analyze Your Life
• 25:35 Losing the Ability to Think for Yourself
• 39:30 What's in our Chat?
• 43:10 Get to Know the Team Member!

Transcript

Is everyone being like, "AI is ruining humanity." AI police. AI police. Yes. Is AI making a stump? But then I'm also questioning, is AI making a stump? I feel like that's proof because everybody's losing their mind. Everyone's losing their mind. Everyone needs to be mad about something always. They need something to be angry about. This is exhausting. This feels like a like I feel like surely there's got to be something better to be mad about, but Oh. Oh, yeah. There there's plenty. Us talking about using it jokingly for therapy. Oh my word, did that make people mad. Firestorm. Yeah. So, I have some clarifications to make.

[Music] I didn't silence my phone. And I also didn't put the red light on. Here's um my thoughts in my brain. Okay. Okay. I'm glad you have some. Yeah. I feel like I want to just talk to you briefly about the podcast in general. Okay. I'm so excited you're here with me today. On the podcast been forever. You know, it feels like I'm so in demand. It feels like And when I get to have you on the podcast, it's very exciting. No, it's like a reunion. This all is as it should be. You were not meant to be my special guest. You were meant to be my host. Supposed to be here all the time. I know. This might not work. I just I need two of me because I'm just It's that time of year where there's just so many like major projects and then there's also life. Yeah. Which kind of sucks for both of us. Yeah. On a regular basis. Well, that was one of outside of work. So, that was one of the things I was going to say is that this transition from a couple things I want to say. Squirrel brain. Yeah. Number one, it's the drink green tea. Um, going from every other week posting Yeah. and my fears on that and like is everyone going to hate that? I feel like it's going better than I thought and I feel like it has taken a like a big pressure off. Um, I don't know how the fans feel, but it has not tanked the numbers as much as I feared. Here's what I've also learned. Uh, short form videos do not do well on YouTube. So, anyway, for those who are sticking around for those ones, thank you so much. But, um, I'm just learning a lot, I guess, is the point I'm getting at. I'm learning. I have really good nails today. I wanted to point that out. The only reason we're literally the only reason I was like, we're going to podcast this week is because I have great nails. So, I have not had I don't think I've had a set on Since before my dad died. What? I don't think so because I'm like I don't think I have the ability to put a set of nails on. I know you have. No. Yeah. No, you have. I don't remember what they were, but I know that you did. Well, I haven't I haven't routinely I haven't routinely I'm going to put a picture on the screen of what these looked like before I cut them down cuz they were scary. We're always bringing it back to nails. I can't help it. It's just It has to be a little bit of a fashion show. I've recently learned that men watch this podcast. Why are you guys here? This is for the girls. [Laughter]

I'm just kidding. I'm happy you're here. Keep coming back. It always kind of surprises me. So, recently I had people approach me at a function and be like, "Hey, I know you from my FYP." And I was like, it freaks my brain out. And also I really love making friends. So I was excited I was excited to make new friends. So I'm making friends moment. Yeah. Celebrity moment which again you were always felt that way about myself with I didn't need this for that but but validation is nice.

But Bill's also told me that he's had people coming up to him being like I watch your podcast but they're men and I'm like why? Maybe they're Maybe they're watching his episodes. I guess I really think they're watching you, though. I mean, that tracks. Yeah, I'm only half joking, half serious. Anyway, today I had the idea to talk about some things on my brain and then you can talk about the things that match my things on my brain. Um, and if they don't match, whatever. We're here for the ride and I think these people know that by now. We've been here for over a year, so they know what to anticipate. Um, also the squirrelier episodes seem to do better, so they are here for the unhinged. Um, AI chachi BT. And here's what here's the latest the latest in my thoughts and what's going on. There's a lot of controversy and a lot of hot opinions. Oh yeah. And I feel like everywhere I'm on the internet, whether Okay. stuff that we're posting. Anything I post that has a hint of a word about AI or ChachiBT, some is in the comments being like, "Wow, why are you using it like that?" And it's brain and people get fired up. And then everything I ever see someone else posting, same thing, is everyone being like, "AI is ruining humanity." AI police. AI police. Yes. Is AI making us dumb? But then I'm also questioning is AI making us dumb? So it's kind of opened up. I feel like that's proof because everybody's losing their mind. Everyone's losing their mind. So in a general sense, I think it already is making people Yeah. less people because they're just so amped up about it. I Everyone needs to be mad about something. Always. They need something to be angry about. This is exhausting. This feels like a like I feel like surely there's got to be something better to be mad about, but Oh. Oh, yeah. There there's plenty artificial intelligence, but I mean there's a fear behind it. Fine. But us talking about using it like jokingly for therapy, oh my word, did that make people mad. Firestorm. Yeah. So, I have some clarifications to make and more opinions to have so that trolls can hop in my comments on that as well. Yeah. Just I have so many things that are going to make people mad. So, hop on in, trolls. Um, here's what I've recently kind of learned about myself anyway using Chachi BT cuz I'm still using it as a therapist. You guys love that. Use the word. Um, say it. Actually, what I think is it more of, and you started talking to me about this this morning, is I think it's more of a brain dump situation. And I think, and for anyone who doesn't know what that means or what that is, is like what used to be I'm worried that this is going to be bumping my mic and making noise. Anyway, what used to be taking like a pad of paper and a pen and literally splurging out every thought in your brain, and this used to be a like an anxiety method, like a clear your mind method, like when you're feeling like, I don't know what I'm doing, get every thought out of your brain method onto paper so that you can then look at it, you like get a sense of like clarity from it. I now feel like doing that with chat I get some feedback in addition to just well now I'm looking at it and now I have to analyze right what does it all mean and how do I sort it out whereas chat can instantly sort out everything I've just vomited into it and go so here's what you're dealing with into categories right and give me any kind of feedback and then I get to decide what I do. Sometimes I literally close swipe out a chat and don't even do anything with it. Yeah. And sometimes I go, "Oh, I didn't even realize that like this thing, this thing, this thing I kind of group together and not important or like this thing, this thing, and this thing are priorities or like whatever. It just helps me kind of sort. So like jokingly being like it's my therapist." It's more like everyone calm down. It's more of like an assistant journal in that sense. I feel like it's a filter. It's a filter like for me because since the last time that we talked about it. Um and you were mentioning that you did that and I was like, "Oh, I never thought of using it for something like that." Um I had a pretty intense weekend this past weekend and I was like, "You know what? I'm going to get some of this out of my head." Usually I just write it out. That's That's always what I've done since I was a kid. Yeah. Um and I'm like, "No, I'm just going to I'm going to dump it in to chat and see what it says and not really asking it anything, but just saying this is what I'm dealing with. This is what I'm feeling." Y um and it came back with here's some of the things that could be influencing your thoughts at this moment or this could be why this feels so heavy right now or Yeah. It it came up with it kind of like put it into context. Yeah. In a weird way because it does I mean I've used it enough that chat knows some things about me. Yes. you know, it it it knows some of my medical history. It know because it's analyzed test results for me. Um, so I could have greater clarity going into doctor's appointments and stuff like that. So, it's like it knows some of the things that I've been through in my life. Um, even recent history like your mom dying, like things that have fundamentally affected you, right? And so, you know, now I'm dealing with this stuff. And so, it's calling all of from all of those factors and saying, you know, this could be why this feels so heavy right now. Um, here's something that maybe might help you to deal with this pressure. Yeah. Um, and it so it's like instead of just journaling and being like there it's out and now it's outside of my body and I can put it down for a second. Yeah. You still are thinking about why did I write that? Where is this coming from? and and so it which is fine like there's nothing wrong with still doing it that way but I found it really helpful and it was very calming this weekend too have that kind of feedback because it was very accurate a lot of what it was saying was like oh yeah you know because I think we tend to forget about some things that um factor in yes to how we're feeling feeling and we think I should just be able to deal with this. I should be fine with this. And so it was cool to have something connect that for me and be because in the moment I wasn't thinking about the big picture. I was just so granular and in the moment and so it it was kind of cool for to get that kind of perspective which I wouldn't have had otherwise. I would have probably gotten there eventually, but I really needed that clarity like in the moment. Yeah. And so to get that Yep. I'll call it a therapist. I'll use the word. I mean, who else would I have had access to? I mean, and it's not like you don't talk with your friends or your family. It's true you do, but if you have like a neurospicy brain like I do and you just kind of sometimes can get hyperfocused easily on things, you have to talk about it 58 times before you can be at peace with it. Yeah. You know, I don't want to be like s Oh my gosh. Same same. I have to have the same thing at least a hundred times before I can completely either not even be over it but like sort through it right just to process it and pick it apart so many times I can't expect that of a friend no it's exhausting maybe 99 times but by the time I mean you know me I will be there for all of them you know that's exactly it it's just like that's not your job as my friend to let like you I cannot expect you to let me dump on you at all all hours of the day. You have your own life and your own issues and it's it's not your responsibility. And so it's like there's there are those moments when it's like I'm going to go to this person, this person, this person, this therapist about this stuff. But the same way you would turn to a journal for certain just vomiting stuff out, sorting stuff out, this is a new tool that clearly makes people uncomfortable cuz it's it's new and and unfamiliar. Try it. If they haven't done it, though, I feel like the people that are freaking out about it are ones that actually haven't had any curios about curiosity about it or haven't like tried. Here's the reality that here's the reality of it, too. People are scared of privacy concerns. And here's what I'll say. I have accepted Yeah. that my privacy could be leaked because of it. I've accepted it. I under I'm not dumb. I've understand the same way every time I post a picture on Instagram and Facebook and a video on Tik Tok. It does not belong to me anymore. As much as they say, we promise it's whatever you put on the internet is on the internet. Privacy is kind of a permanent. it. Privacy is a concept instead of a reality. And so you do, right? You do have to understand promises. Pinky swears, right? And maybe it is. And maybe it is locked in. Yeah. But like I at least go into it knowing there's a chance, right? Someone's reading this. If someone if they're using it, it could be leaked. I get it. And guess what? I haven't murdered anybody. So like I'm not worried that I haven't committed any crimes that I'm afraid like oh no like and if you have maybe don't like and all of my friends in person know I'm this messed up too. So it's like if you knew me on a day-to-day basis you would not be shocked by anything that I put into chat GBT. Right. So Right. Yeah. It's all relative. It really is. I feel I feel that the same way that you do that it's like it I've had a lot of light bulb moments where it just connects things for me that I especially in moments of like being just like mentally so fatigued or run down or exhausted or in grief or whatever that it's like that all the all the information is there came from my brain and this is literally just a learning machine that it's just helping me be like I took this info you gave me over here and over here and I'm just being like could and it's like could this be the reason that you're feeling like that and I'm like, "Oh my god." Yeah. And then I feel better. It's like holding up a mirror to your Yeah. Whatever it is you're dealing with. Y it's it was great. Like I was so glad that I tried it and that you suggested it because I was like, "Wow, this is really cool." And the other thing that I thought was super cool for it, um I have family that's going through um some pretty big health stuff right now. And um you know how some times you may be tempted to like Google symptoms or Google like they're feeling like this this is happening. Yeah. And then you just get all this information from Google that freaks you out and you're like oh my god everybody's dying. I tried something instead this weekend and um went to chat instead because I'm like, why am I scoping the internet? Yeah. Why not just tell chat what's going on and ask it to look for connections and look for things? Far more reasonable results came up. Yeah. it was more likely like this is most likely based on the information you're giving me, but here are some other options to think about. Yeah. Would you like a list of questions to ask your provider or this person's healthcare provider when you're there for the visit? Um, and it was just like instead of going on Google and freaking myself out, it was like, I'm just going to ask you to be reasonable and do the research and came back with something that was like, oh, you know what, that makes a whole lot of sense. And it was way different than what I was finding. And I think it's because you can be more nuanced and specific in the information you put into chat. For instance, you can put in like if I'm typing into Google, what are the symptoms of the flu? That's as pretty much as specific as you can get. Whereas I can in chat be like, so my sister has this and this and this and last month she also was dealing like I can get so so deeply specific granular like deep and then it will take all those fat. I can't do that in Google search because it then it's just going to spit out a whole bunch of well articles that don't apply and like but then you start thinking but does this apply? Could this apply? If it fits into that, should we be worried about that? Like it creates just like this chat can narrow it down and I I think that's why I personally really like it because it's just it's like I don't care about everything on the internet. I care about what applies to me. What relates to this specific little Yeah. And I also I try I try to always keep in mind like this information can be inaccurate still. Exactly. And what it's feeding me could be and there have been times when it has fed me things and I'm like that's not right. Yeah. And I have challenged it and been like hey so that's not right because of blah blah blah. And it's like oh yeah you're right. And then it and I'm like okay. So, it's a bit of a reality check of like like do do not go in just so like so like yes, everything is yes, like it's all right. Like you you wouldn't go into your doctor and be like, "Well, chat told me that I have this." No, it's not it's not replacing, right, a medical professional, right? you know. Yeah. But it one of the things I I recently did too was and there's in in settings where you can um create um uh personalization for you like custom instructions and one of the things that I have put in my custom instructions for it um was basically like don't agree with everything I say. like challenge my thinking and um you know come back with different viewpoints on things. Don't just cuz it tends to be a yes man and like so right everything you say is beautiful and I love you like it just you are so smart to approach it like this. Yes. That's how it's always answered. And I'm just like blah blah blah. I don't care about that chat. Like give me the truth. Like so I And then I often still will be like give me like the hard truth even if I hate it on this question and it will become way more like be objective. Just ask it to be objective and not like and that helps too. Like I feel like delusional best friend. Do not be my delusion. Sometimes I mean tell me I'm pretty

Have you gone to the pro yet or you Yeah. Oh, yeah. A long time ago since I've had it, I immediately went to the paid. I didn't mess around with the free versions at all. Yeah. Cuz I could instantly see like I did like a trial of the pro like the same day. I don't know when I first started looking into it and I was like, "Yeah, I'm not going to waste my time with the Yeah. free version because it's so at this point I've had it for so long I'm like I don't even know if it's worth it anymore because I don't know what free offers anymore, right? I know. So I'm like I'm assuming I'm still it's still worth it cuz it's faster. You can upload more images stuff. You're not Yeah. You're not limited. there are only so many times a day you can use it cuz I noticed that when I tried to like there was another version that just came out um and I used it for a little while and I was like yeah it's all right but it wasn't worth the huge jump in price but so I I imag I I feel like the what is it like 20 bucks a month I feel like it's worth it yeah for what it is again a therapist co-ay would cost more than that so seriously just for the reasoning, just to use it to reason things out to kind of get a different perspective or to hone your perspective of something to see the big picture of something like I've just I I've really enjoyed just and I'm still like just starting to use it like that, but I've really enjoyed that aspect of it because I feel like it's not it's not replacing a skill. It's not making me dumber, right? It's just an assist and it feels like a true assist and and you know not any of those other things. So I really I really like it. One of the things that um and the more you use it and give it information about yourself, the more like the better this will work. But I found a prompt on um I think it was Tik Tok and the prompt was so interesting and um gosh I don't know if I can find the chat anymore but it was basically this whole and I'll send it to you. Yeah, please do. Let me see if I can find it. One of my favorite ones is um asking it to use deep research. Well, so this prompt was basically like I want you to take it was basically like this like I want you to take everything you know about me and like basically like analyze who I am as a person and my life and I don't know if I want to do that. I mean you have to be ready for some hard truths about yourself. But let me tell you something. Was it pretty accurate? Well, okay. So are you Oh, yeah. And that's kind of why why I want to show it to you because is it this um like are you a person that likes personality tests? I think they're interesting. Like I like to see how accurate they are cuz if you like stuff like that then I think that you would really like this. Okay, cool. Cuz it you know how sometimes you read like whatever you know MyersBriggs or whatever and you get cast and you're like oh that sounds so much like me. That's how this felt to me except spookier. Except I was just like I don't know freaked out because it took it took stuff that I'm like I don't even know how it's possible that it's getting that that like specific about my life. Like it it broke down my childhood trauma somehow. Oh wow. And and like it made it made sense of like why I behave in certain ways that I didn't even understand. therapy, but like it made me feel a lot better. Like I was just like I never knew that I that I did that thing because of that. Mhm. And anyway, I can't find the chat right now, but I'm going to I will send you the it's it's kind of it's kind of a long prompt. Um, so that would only work if you had already inputed a lot of information about your childhood and your family dynamics and things like that. That's what's And you'd have to have you'd have to have a bit of a history with who you are with chat. But I like how long have you been using chat like this?

Would you say? I mean at least six months. Okay. And I so like you would probably get a more detailed, very specific and more accurate answer than I would. I've only just started using it. It couldn't in a similar way. Yeah. It doesn't know that much about me. Yeah. I mean, it knows some, but it's mostly just like medical stuff. Like the fear you don't admit is the one. Oh my goodness. your hi your hidden narrative in subtext. That one freaked me out. So I'll show this is for her off screen because it's pretty. But anyway, um, so anyway, all of this kind of leads back to the question that I have been thinking about a lot the past few weeks, which is, is using chat GPT or AI so frequently, making us dumb in the sense that we're no longer using our own brains to think. Like, I'm turning like we're turning to it so much to do stuff for us, think for us. Like, am I not thinking for myself? because I saw and I sent it to you a Facebook post that was basically like MIT did a brain scan being like people who use Chachi BT uh can't like recall like thoughts for themselves anymore whereas nonAI users can um your cognitive performance is failing uh uh completing tasks faster uh basically just being like people who use AI are slowing down brainwise. And I'm I'm like I I don't know how to feel about that. I feel like that's I mean they have the statistics now. They did this study and all these percent. I also never know it's fake news. Like I didn't even look. I see like the details of this stud. Is that even a real study? But I see stuff like that all the time. It's from MIT. So I'm not instantly thinking that it's fake news. But but the post isn't from MIT. It's from a rando saying that. Right. So that's what I'm saying. I don't know what's fake news and what's not. So, but I see stuff like that all the time. And it just got me thinking like is that something that's really happening too? I think it's it makes sense, but the how bad it is or how scary it is, I'm not sure if we have the right context for it because I feel like it's,

you know, if you make your own pizza at home from scratch and the difference of doing that or going and getting something pre-made from another

Are you losing the ability to cook? Are you losing the ability to cook? Right. Because you're eating takeout. And if you do that long enough, will you forget how to make a pizza, right? Are we really worried about that? Yeah. Does that you you know what I mean? I I feel like that's a good way to put it. Everybody is so freaked out and hyping this up as like the end of thinking mankind. And I'm like, is that really what's happening? Yeah. You know, when calculators came out and people started doing math, so true. On a calculator instead of long form, did we suddenly get dumber? Some of us maybe. Yeah. I mean, I feel like there is a percentage of the population that is not going to retain that information because there's so many variables in intelligence. So yeah, of course it's going to happen on some slice of the pie here, but overall, is it going to be that damaging? I feel like it really needs to be seen. That's a really good illustration, too, because I'm like, we have calculators now, so what do I need to do long form math for? That's a really good point. I'm like, how often is it an issue for me to need to do long form math without a calculator? Unless that's my field or is it really a big deal? Is it really a big deal that I'm using a calculator? Right. Nine times out of 10, no. That's a really good point. Yeah. So, I just I get really just like super And we've talked about AI fatigue in another podcast before, but I just get so tired of seeing people on LinkedIn and in social media and on these posts like just demanding how AI be used and like forecasting this mass idiocy that's coming on the horizon. I'm like maybe not. Mhm. If you look back historically at the shifts that have been made when technology made a huge leap forward and it started being incorporated in daily life and in across all different types of business, you know, it it it didn't cause a massive setback. Yeah. And so why why would this be different? It is technology. It's a new kind of technology. It's different. There's a lot that's not understood about it still. Yeah, it's a learning curve that's maybe a bigger learning curve than other technologies by its nature, but I just it it feels like it it's just getting to this fevered pitch and I'm just like just just calm down. Let's just stop. Yeah. Can we talk about something else for a little bit? Yeah. because it's it's just turning and maybe it's just me that feels that way. I think I think it's to me I wonder if it's just because there's always just been this I mean back from literally before Y2K like someday robots are going to take over the world and so ever since the Terminator movies are we getting to the point where robots are taking over the world and people are like it's now becoming real robots cars are driving themselves and I did see some video and I don't even know if it was real because of AI of a robot walking down the street in New York City and people freaking out about it and it's just And it's true. Sometimes I don't. You can't tell. That was a big thing. I saw on TikTok a girl talking about how there's a video going around that people it did fool people. They didn't know the bear on the trampoline. Did you see that? And the bunnies on the trampoline and they couldn't tell if it was real or not. And it's like we're going it's going to get worse. We're not going to be able to tell what's AI and what's not because it's going to keep getting better. And can you tell what math from a paper what kid used right a calculator and who did it by hand right if all they're doing is putting the answer on the paper. Yeah. Can you tell like in some in some ways it's not going to hurt anything. Yeah. I am sure like just just calm down. Yeah. There will be pros and cons. It doesn't belong in every single application. True. It's being used where it should not be used or Yes. Yeah, I I'm not a fan of the idea of a self-driving car. Yeah, I'm not either. I don't think that's that's a step too far to me. I agree. You know, but I feel like that's subjective, you know, that's everybody's going to have an opinion about that. And that's maybe what I'm so fatigued about is hearing like every single opinion about it. I feel like I feel like none of them should be self-driving or only all of them should be self-driving, right? One or the other. For some people I think it would improve their driving if it was self-driving car. But yeah, I just and and you think about it. It's true. There will be some skills that I think will be lost in a sense like how many people make their own butter. Yeah. You know, right? It becomes like a colloquial I shouldn't have tried to say that word today. But it becomes like an old-fashioned Yeah. um kind of niche thing which we all accept about other things. So I'm like So I feel like there's going to be we're in the hysteria phase. We're in the hysteria phase. We're going to come into the acceptance stage and then it's just going to be the new reality. And there will probably always be people who are just like me me. Oh yeah. There's always going to be apocalyptic. Yeah. Drama. Yep. But to me, I'm just like, you know, as far as is it making me more or less dumb using my brain? I'm sure a little bit both. Like, I feel like it's just making me use my brain differently. I feel like I'm saving brain space for other things. I which I need more. And I feel like it's helping me be a deeper thinker in some ways. It's helping me spend I spend probably more I probably spend more time now doing a lot of introspection and thinking and writing than I did before. Whereas before I would ignore those things and I would doom scroll. Yeah. Instead. And now I've gone back to real journaling, real writing, and stud real studying and brain dumping through chat GBT. I'd like I'd just like to know more about this study because the percentages sound scary. Oh, you're not using your brain. But I feel like are you not accessing a part of the brain that you normally would be right if you were working on this task? Is it necessary? Yeah. What information is included in this study? Right. Like I I just don't know if it's scare tactics or like and that's again why I go through everything on the internet just kind of with a head tilt like like is it really is it really I don't trust any of you Phyllis.

I never do.

Yeah. Yeah, but

I'm still going to keep using it. I am too. It has it has a place. And everyone being mad at me is not going to stop me. Yeah. I'm going to tune out all of the I How do I change my feed? It's LinkedIn specifically that's really taking me off now. I know. I rarely go on there anymore because all I get is like well I've had a couple cool interactions with local people good who have been like you know how a lot of this is kind of off topic but um you know how sometimes you connect with someone then you immediately get like a pitch Yes. in your DMs and they're just like, "So, hey, I I've had two really good experiences with people like genuinely like if you if you approach it the right way, I have total respect for you." Yeah. And I had one guy from Portland um who was like, "Here's my stuff, but how you doing? Like, what's going on in Kery?" And um just thanks for connecting. here's what I do just so you know if in the future you need anybody like me which I thought was great. That's a good way to approach it. So, but the majority of the ones I'm getting are like, "Hey, so this is what I do and can we schedule a fiveminute?" I'm like, "No, no, I don't want to schedule a fiveminute call. I just connected with you." Nothing less than to get on a call. We're connecting. So, I see you and I'll reach out if I ever need to. happy to connect, but please don't be aggressive with me. Yeah. And it's either that or it's here's the only way you should be using AI. Those are all the posts that are coming up. And I'm like, how do I make it stop? I don't think there's any I don't want to open this app anymore. There's no way that anyone can be saying this is the only way to you. It's too new to be definitively saying that. But people are saying the same they're giving the same opinions just putting their own bullet list in there. Yeah. And I'm like, you're just you're doing the ex you're saying the exact same thing. Yeah. Isn't this what chat you're accusing Chad of doing? Great point. Like great point. Does anybody else see this? Is it just me? Is it just rage bait is all I'm like and I'm like I stop putting the light bulb response on it. Like it's not it's not an aha moment anymore. Literally everybody is saying the same thing. So sorry I had to just finish for a little bit. I understand. I'm getting kind of sick of social media in general and just everyone being all like Can we just go back to like everything just being fun and light and talk about the things you enjoy? Yeah, like get back to talking about what it is about marketing or your whatever business you're in. Like make that what you're talking about. What excites you? What are you excited about? What is really bringing value to your work and what are you using that you think is making positive changes? Like, can we just stop with the fear-mongering and the you know, I want to open it and be inspired by something and not here's what you're doing wrong and if you're not using it this way, then I think I think that was our goal with coming on talking about every time we talk about Chachi Beauty and why we're using it is cuz it's like this is why we like it. This is what we're This is how we're using it. Don't do it if you don't want to. No problem for us, right? We're not saying if you don't use it, right? It literally will affect my life 0%. This is crazy, but Chad GBT does not sponsor me. And maybe they should, but they don't. So, if you don't, don't do it. It's okay. It'll be okay. It's going to be all right. Yeah. We're just This is why we like it. This is what we're excited about. This these are ways that we found to use it that have actually been truly helpful. Yeah. At different times. And so it's like we're just sharing. Just like the what's in my bag and why you should use a vomit bag. This is in my chat. What's in my chat? This is what's in my chat. We should start doing that regularly. What's in my chat? What's in my chat? What's in your chat? And I don't know if we have any time cuz I don't know how much time we've been recording, but I'm like, what if I can share a recent what's in my chat? I know. I should go look. I use it for everything. Something stupid and benign. fruitly solutions recently because I have stupid fruit flies in my kitchen. I can't get rid of them. Um, oh, I asked it um uh because I just started doing Pilates classes again after I had abdominal surgery and so I was asking it um what things I should be cautious about. Yeah. And is it okay that I started doing this? Oh. Um I mean I mean I got clearance to start exercising again and all that, but um but I still was like is there anything I should like be keeping an eye on? Are there you're not thinking of that I'm not thinking of? Right. And it gave me this whole list of um like here are a couple things you should look out for um and you know information about adhesions and scar tissue and stuff and like be mindful of that and it could cause this type of pain. So don't freak out if you feel this just modify. It was so helpful. Yeah, I loved it. So that's that's a recent chat. I recently used it. Did I tell you to help me design? Um, we're remodeling my mom's house. Yes. Yeah. So, like Oh, no. You showed me like your room. So, I've been doing it to help redesign my sister's house like because we're just like revamping the outside. So, like the fire pit area. I took a picture of the backyard and was like, "Hey, how should we rellandscape this?" And it was like here, rellandscape it like this. Here's like and it gave me a bunch of options like here's the furniture that you would need. It it sent me back a picture of our actual backyard and just put furniture in it. See, I love that. And then same same with downstairs. I took a picture of the downstairs and was like, if I took out this wall, what would it look like if I then took out this wall and then put um and then put a living room down here and it took out the wall and then built a living room there. That's so cool. Guys, how are you hating this? Right. Right. That's amazing. you know, there's an interior designer who's just like, "Dang it, exing you out on their screen right now." Yeah. And I mean, I don't think it necessarily replaces anything like that, but I mean, for us to again inspire ideas like, "Oh, I wouldn't have thought of putting that there like that." And then if you were going to a contractor or an interior designer, you could give them a visual and say, "This is Yes. What I'm This is what's in my head." Well, actually what what I the whole reason I did this was to I'm trying to encourage my mother to do it. And so I'm she's a v she needs visuals. She's terrified of change. And so I wanted to be like this is what your trash basement could look like. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? Yours. And she was like, oh yeah. Yeah. That's why it's valuable. So sometimes you just need to see it and be like all you would need is a couple of pieces of furniture. And so anyway, I feel like that's pretty valuable. But anyway, could go on and on. Yeah, we will. We probably will. We're going to talk about this again. I need to get a team member question ready for you. Hang on. I love these. I'm so bad at them, but I love them. Get to know the team member. Now I I It'd be funny if you asked me a question about me and I had no idea. side point. I dropped into the the super we have a we have many chats but we have one for our local people and then we have one for everyone around the world who works at the company and I dropped into that chat this morning like hey everybody please send me chat uh facts about you that no one else on the team knows I still have to do that and then and I was like privately heavy on the privately don't answer in this chat and immediately Kevin Kevin Burns was like, "I almost answered in this chat." I'm like, "Babe, don't do that." The only reason I didn't is cuz I didn't see the chat right off cuz, you know, I would have as well. So, anyway, I started having um I started having people message me today some new um facts about themselves. So, I've got I've got a few. I'm going to just pick one. Okay.

Okay, this is just a random one. Okay, which team member believes that chocolate and peanut butter deserve a spot on the food pyramid? Oh, besides my daughter. Um, I know she doesn't work here, so that doesn't count. Um,

First, it would have to be someone who thought about the food pyramid.

That feels like a Kevin to me. Is it Kevin? It's not Kevin. It's not Kevin. I feel like he would chart that out. Um,

chocolate and peanut butter should be on the food pyramid. Tim. You think Tim's thinking about the food pyramid? No, but I feel like it's a classic combination and he's pretty he's kind of white bread. So, he is pretty white bread. I feel like it would it I love you, Tim, but you know what I mean. Honestly, search your soul. You know I'm right. Um

Do you want any hints? Yes, cuz I'm so bad at this. It's someone

that is within a year new to this company.

Okay. a year running through like everybody who's been here like two is it Ava. Good guess.

Who else has only been here a year? Less than a year.

I think there's only two other options.

Why can't I think of anybody else that's only been here a year? Erica, you've got one more option. What? Who's the last one? I'm so sorry, whoever it is. It's hard. I picked someone hard. I picked maybe the hardest person. And if I work with you a lot, I'm so sorry. I picked the hardest person

because this person is cooperative and actually sent me answers because they're responsible. Christina and a good adult. No, she's been here longer than Yeah, she's been here like 2 years. It's a mature adult woman. Vicki. Yes. My god, Vicki, I'm so sorry. I mean, to be fair though, I just met her like two weeks ago. She Okay, so Vicki is brand new to this company and I have not even posted her welcome to the company video yet. Okay, so podcast fans, you probably don't even know who that is yet. So that video will be coming if it hasn't posted by the time this podcast is posted, which hopefully it if it hasn't, it will be. It will be within a couple days. So yeah, she's brand brand new. She's our new webdev lady. She's amazing. I love that. And also a peanut butter and chocolate enthusiast. Good to know. Yeah. Okay, of course it's Vicki. She's the one and was like, I am on it. Sending you whatever you need. She's awesome. I haven't worked with her that much yet, but I love her already. She was such a good hire. Oh, go back and watch our our Moxy video. Go to our YouTube channel. You if you're not there and go watch our me and Adrian and so good. I don't know why more people haven't liked that. Was one of the best videos. Oh, it's so funny ever. There are so many gold nuggets in that one. like Tim and Coyote ugly. Oh my god. I spit my drink out when I saw that part because I'm like, "What just happened?" So many of Adrian's faces. Oh my word. Oh my word. He's like He asked if you needed to be birthed.

I love him. I love him. Why does he have to work in another country? I want him back. He needs to be here all the time because I I need that in my life. Yeah. So, if you haven't seen his episode yet, go for that. And upcoming next couple weeks, enjoy. A whole bunch of Kevin episodes on the way. Buckle in for that. Kevin Burns episodes are on the way. He's a singular human being. Oh boy. I gonna have fun editing those.

But I'm very excited. I'm so excited for Kevin to be here. We're going to have a lot of fun podcast moments with him. So, please come back for Kevin content. It's going to be awesome. And come back for Annalin content. She's coming back. I am. She is. You hear that life? I have to drag her. It's happening. You're highly requested. So, a people were stopping you in the hallway. That is true. I had someone this weekend as well like, "Hey, I know you from Seint." Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, I hope you're not a weirdo." Yeah. Was it a weirdo? I don't know. Was it a nice person? Yes, they were very nice. So, but I do attract the weirdos and I'm okay with that. Yeah, I do too. It's okay. It's okay. Hey, weirdos. We love you. Welcome. We're your people. We're your people. Okay. We'll see you next time. Love you.