How to Dress Smart for Work (Without Losing Your Personal Style)

Does what you wear actually matter at work? (Spoiler: yeah, kinda.) In this episode, we’re talking all about how clothes impact confidence, credibility, and how you show up—whether you’re in-office, remote, or somewhere in between.

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no one is like freaked out when I show up here in fur anymore because they're just like that's who Kristy is exactly but you know I think for someone else they you know they might be like "Oh you wearing fur now?" Yeah i think that fake fur fake fur fake fur yes no paint throwing don't throw blood on me i don't know how men accessorize i'm not I don't know belts watches watches a tie to the office like ties can be cool yeah men how are you accessorizing yeah let us know educate us

i have to make sure my phone is silent i just turned mine to do not disturb okay I'm doing that too but I also need it to disturb me a little bit because I need to pull up for reference what we're going to talk about oh yeah that I should probably have that for reference as well i need to be disturbed at times that would be helpful thank you for dressing up with me today i wore my fancy pants on purpose i love it because I knew we were going to be talking about fashion we promised the people fashion yes as a topic i like that I can hold up to some of the promises I make i very often am breaking my promises that we're going to do this and I'm going to do this and I promise we're going to do that i never I'm just like we ran on the platform of fashion and you delivered i that is one I can deliver on although I I was noticing you got your nails done they do not match my outfit at all i don't care and I I like when I chose my outfit last night I I don't know about you but I tend to choose my outfits based on the weather well yeah i Today it's rainy and gray and gross and like you don't I don't really want to wear like sunshine and rainbows and bright colors on a rainy gross day so this is what Yeah I wanted to wear but it has nothing to do with my like cotton candy nails no I love them but my nails say summer my outfit says winter this is more like fall it's feel It's giving October fall vibes pumpkin spice for Tim just for Tim it's always pumpkin spice season here when we're making fun of Tim well it's making me wish that I had done something but a That's okay before you guys all run away thinking we're going to just talk about fashion the whole time this will relate to marketing i promise it will there's pro there's got to be some people that enter the enter the chat and are just like they're once again talking about fake nails but I know that I know that there are men that listen and so they suffer through it they suffer through it for some reason they must like us i don't know how could you not if you've been here a while then you know eventually we get to the topic but this whole we we what we got to this place where like I think it would be good to talk about dressing for success and the nuances around how dressing affects psychology because that interests me so much it always has um yeah and your and let's just kind of in your experience just kind of as an overview how have you felt like dressing differently throughout your life has affected like how you've been treated or like your psychology of how you treat yourself or act yeah that's a super good question and I was thinking about that yesterday um my very first real job was at a doctor's office okay so for like my first 10 working years I wore scrubs so there wasn't really a whole lot of wiggle room as far as fashion goes but what we could do was we could wear cool sneakers okay and we could wear cool makeup okay so that kind of was like the only or like do our hair in different ways did you pick fun scrubs i did pick fun scrubs i had one that looked like a kimono top um and then I had one that had like hearts and cute like brightly colored designs on it but um I always wanted a job where I could wear scrubs i mean it basically feels like you're wearing pajamas to work so it it doesn't like inspire a whole lot of effort yeah and I think a lot of people in the medical field get in that rut because like you feel like you're not really wearing anything fancy so you don't do anything fancy with the rest of you but where I worked it was a dermatology practice so it was like you wanted your skin to look good like you want to make the practice look good so that was kind of part of it so that was the my way of like trying to dress up for work was doing you know my hair and makeup and having cool sneakers yeah well and you bring up a good point because I remember my my sister-in-law um is a hairdresser and she used to tell me she always made sure her hair looked nice because that was a little bit her marketing for Absolutely it'd be crazy if she had like insane hair and she's just like "But I promise I'm good at it." Like it doesn't it doesn't translate it's like you're your own model for that exactly so so you talking about your skin being good at the at the dermatology like I feel like it's whatever industry you're in you kind of have to reflect that yeah the doctors were very specific about you know like they they only wanted like I mean it was very I don't know what's the right word um probably misogynistic because all the doctors were men but they only wanted the ones with good skin to be like in the front really yeah like to do front desk or to do billing and then like you could see that some of the girls that like didn't have great skin they usually ended up at some point working in the back you know like filing or doing other things which was unfair but that was the way it was yeah well and so like when you think about office life and how that translates especially here like we don't have a dress code here which I love which I love and I was thinking about that jobs where I have had dress codes it almost creates like a rebellion to like do you know what I mean like I don't even care about wearing jeans but jobs where I wasn't allowed to wear jeans I really wanted to wear like I never wear jeans but it like it has that like reverse effect where it's like because I can't now I want to exactly and it's like jobs where you don't have a dress code does that make I'm just thinking psychology in general of people like does that then make you want to dress well or do you take advantage and just kind of dress really sloppy like I think about that a lot yeah i personally I love the fact that our office doesn't have a dress code um because it makes it very flexible for every person and every style whatever man woman child we have kids here too like it it makes it very uh welcoming easygoing environment to work in but I will say for me personally I feel like whenever I'm going to be client facing I do want to look more professional than more comfortable which is harder to do when I'm working from home because all I want to do is wear pajamas when I'm at home right right and I do work mostly from home like I'm not here in the office with you guys super super often but yeah there's I feel like there's definitely a confidence boost and like a professionalism boost when at least on Zoom from here to here I look like I know what I'm talking about you know you don't want to look like you just rolled out of bed it's not very like your clients are not going to put a lot of trust in you if you look sloppy so that's the that's kind of the perception that attaches to it is if you dress well you're more professional and you're more knowledgeable it's like that's kind of like the unspoken thing that attaches to it if you dress sloppy if you show up in your pajamas it's like it has this kind of unspoken like you're not as intelligent or capable or and it's not true no it's not true at all it's not necessarily true but that is the the judgment and stigma to it and so but separate from that I I at least feel like when I dress better for work or just going out or anything it creates like you said this confidence of like it puts me in work mode for one thing that's true like I'm here to work not like slack off like it puts it just kind of clicks into my brain like I'm in I'm in boss lady mode as Kevin Burns likes to say i love it i love Christy boss lady mode it just kind of puts me in that mode so that I know that especially like when I go home and I can like change into pajamas it like shifts gears a little bit like do you feel like that at all yeah that makes sense that definitely makes sense and I think that's where it gets tricky working from home because it's easy to get in that I find for myself it's easy for me to get in that rut of like just wear pajamas and keep my camera off and don't worry about what I look like but you know being an account manager being client facing for probably I don't know maybe 50% of the time you know that's not a good rut to get into cuz it's it it's counterproductive right but so yeah that I think that's the interesting thing about what CO did was everyone was working from home yep and there was this new like how do we dress for work at home like all and I thought it was so cool that all these new companies popped up with like um work from home wear mhm that never existed before yes there was this one company that I saw um on Instagram i forget the name of the company but they made work wear for women who work from home but it was like it had a built-in bra cup thing in all their tops oh which I thought well that is a genius marketing move because all women hate wearing a bra right especially at home and at home when you're working you just want to be comfortable so I was like that was brilliant but then you know you had people that were showing up to work with like a hoodie and y you know not combed hair and right you know did they brush their teeth you look at them and you wonder yeah it does it kind It kind of makes you It is It's the p It is It's the perception of it it's just kind of like what it makes you question that person like unfortunately it just does it's like if you're not put together it's like are you mentally capable of this shot especially think about like job interviews or first days or even just like first month of working somewhere it's like you kind of have to put forth that extra effort because if I've if you've been here for 10 years and I know you then you know if you show up looking like a mess it's like I I'm not going to jud you know we're not going to judge you probably a good reason for it well yeah and we're not going to judge you as harshly we already know you're very competent and capable and you can sit at your desk and we know that you're doing your thing but in those first in that first like few months or even year it's like it it just it has that judgment attached to it so we were talking we were talking about um examples of movies that we've seen um where they portray how much the way that you dress or um glow up like affected and and again these are fictional examples but the one that came into my head immediately one of my favorite comfort movies is The Devil Wears Prada um which if you haven't seen it she gets a job at this very fancy magazine agency and she's all the women there are fashion glam Amazons and she's a mess and doesn't know how to dress doesn't know anything about fashion right but then the moment she gets a makeover where she's then in very high expensive chic couture clothes suddenly she starts acting wicked differently and works differently and harder is taken more seriously starts being taken way more seriously um her co-workers start taking her way more seriously and treating her differently yeah she gets more opportun more work opportunities you know yep no one everyone thought she was a joke when she was showing up just like in a Target sweater um and ugly shoes and it's like that's a real thing like it's it's a very you know exaggerated fictional example but it's a real thing yeah that's unfortunately true it is it's very true um another example that's also just a ridiculously exaggerated fictional example is Legally Blonde she's just very you know silly it's a typical blonde i think that one goes like the opposite like extreme where she was like overdressed or like sometimes inappropriately dressed for the setting and so people wouldn't take her seriously even though she had the knowledge to do whatever y required of her yeah she didn't fit in for what they perceived was appropriate for a lawyer she was all pink and she should have been in black suits or whatever uh you know that was the belief or perception or judgment and so she didn't get treated well um so yeah it's kind of like thinking about those stigmas how does that um affect how we choose to get dressed so for me I I dress based on how I feel most of the time and for me a lot of the time getting dressed up nicer makes me feel better true if I My thing I say all the time pe if I feel like crap inside I try to get dressed up nice for the outside it's all I can do it's all I can do mask it all up it It's you know if I'm feeling crappy then I can at least look nice out here um and it helps it does help um I feel less I feel more like a spectacle out in public if I'm looking like raggedy if I'm in like my leggings that have cat hair all over them I feel way more stared at than if I'm even wearing Yeah then I if I'm wearing these shiny ridiculous silver pants like for some reason for me that's how I because I at least feel put together and it just comes with a level of respect for some reason yeah i I think I realized that even more so um hopefully this isn't too off topic but even more so when Aaron's health was really bad and we were in the hospital in and out of the hospital a lot because like when you're in and out of the hospital and you're in a crisis you don't care what you look like because you have life or death you know situations happening like the last thing that matters is whether you your outfit looks good or your hair looks good or whatever but like I definitely noticed that impacting you know my confidence my self-esteem and and also like you leave the hospital and you don't really want to go anywhere else cuz like I look like a mess like but it's like at the same time you kind of don't care so I don't know if maybe I'm Do you think doctors treated you better or worse if you were dressed better or worse like like "Oh this is a this is a good question this is an intelligent important woman we need to get her her answers quicker or just like you look like a trash person." So that actually is a a real thing because I now that I'm thinking about it that's a really good question the days when I just looked like a total nightmare it definitely did affect whether because I look young younger than I am already and so if I look extra disheveled I can look even younger and so they'd look at me like "What are you 15?" Or like "You don't know what you're talking about." And they would talk down to me and stuff and then there would be other days where I'm like "Okay I have the wherewithal to get dressed and not look like a train wreck." And then I'd be getting compliments from the nurses you know about how cute you look or the doctor would be like looking me in the eyes instead of ignoring me and only talking to Aaron because he's older than me by 10 years so I think that definitely was the case and I can see I can kind of see why because as someone who's been in the ER in the middle of the night and seen how people look that show up at the ER in the middle of the night Yeah there's a certain way some people look and if you come in looking like that you know they're going to assume they're going to assume you're going to be a nightmare to work to deal with or whatever yep or like what you know what chaos is this that I'm going to have to deal with for the next three hours exactly so yeah that is true yeah no and and the more you just worked that out and talked that out it made me realize I do tend to dress up more on purpose if I know I'm going to the doctor or like when I am car shopping is a great example I am getting dressed to the nines because I'm not letting salesmen take advantage of me absolutely and and like you said I also look super young for my age and so I can easily This is just a little side story i was at TJ Maxx on on Sunday few days ago and the cashier said to me as I was you know how they're always like if you open a credit card she goes she goes you can open you can open a TJX credit card if you're 18

I'm 36 Yep i'm like you think I might not be 18 you know what it's gonna I told myself I hated it for the longest time and now that I'm getting older I'm like "Yeah I look I went and sat in my car and looked in looked in the mirror and was like I my face is like falling you think I could be 18 under 18?" I was dying what's happening to these 18year-olds that I look 18 i know so I'm like "My skinincare routine is doing amazing." Yeah it's it comes in it's going to come in super handy when we're like 70 and people are like "Oh you don't look a day over 45." Thank you so but yeah so because of that times when I need to be taken seriously as not a 17-year-old um that's a really good point i do get dressed up to be taken more ser like you're not I know your scams Mr car salesman and you're not going to talk to me about how you can get me a lower car payment and like I know I know how this works i've been around the block many times i've bought many cars and I'm not doing this so um I just find that that works and so in the in the work setting um the same thing i just feel like there's not many times there's not many times that I feel like I need to um kind of stand up and be more firm um but there are with clients or whatever and I just feel like I can do that more confidently when I am dressed more confidently um if again the don't get me wrong I show up here in leggings like and a sweatshirt oh yeah we've all we've all been here in our uber comfy clothes at one point or the other but it's not it's generally almost never when I know I have meetings with clients or or never for like a matterport or a photo shoot i would never show up in front of clients or in person in my sweats like so I at least not on purpose yeah right like definitely I try to look more professional when I'm going to be in front of clients but but it is nice that we have an atmosphere here where if you did show up in your comfy clothes because you don't have any client meetings that day no one's going to be like "Why do you look like a schlub?" You know um so some of the like personal point of view questions that got me kind of thinking was um have you ever overdressed or underdressed and then that made you feel out of place either for work or for other places like does getting overdressed than ever make you feel like awkward what's funny is I think after co I'm more conscious of dressing up too nicely than like I used to wear much fancier clothes before co anywhere I went like and now I think my perspective has changed on that a little bit i definitely dress less fancy than I used to for what reason i don't know what the reason is i wonder if it's just because we were stuck at home for so long or because you know everyone was working from home and everyone kind of ended up dressing down in one way or the other but I can't think of a specific example right this second of where I felt overdressed like embarrassed overdressed i can think of examples where I was underdressed but I don't know i feel like as far as work is concerned I don't think you can be overdressed

unless you're showing up down right exactly i was just going to say unless like you show up in a tux and honestly even then the way I am I'm like I a little bit am like the world is my set um and I'm very unapologetic for it because I'm just like look I think it's fun to get dressed up and be So here's an a negative example that it popped into my head of that so like I was recently talking to someone who was telling me they got a new job at um a pest control service yeah company and but they work in the office so they're like answering the phone booking you know pest control services things like that and she's like "Yeah everyone at the office just wears like hoodies and jeans." And she's like "I'm wearing my stilettos and my cute outfits and my skirts and stuff." And I'm like "That's great but like aren't you going to be very out of place?" To me that seems like it would be very strange if someone walked in the pest control office and there was like a glam Amazon standing there does she have job assignments that would make the utility of that outfit difficult no or is she just the one that stands out no she's just the one that stands out so I think that's that might be one of the negative things about being overdressed is maybe you make your other co-workers it looks odd for it looks odd compared to them or they feel uncomfortable because you're dressed nicer or very very differently i don't know that was just something that was just the first thought that popped in my head i'm like man that's gonna look really strange but yeah I I've heard I don't know if you've heard there's this thing I see it all over Tik Tok and whatever and it's controversial about um women dressing to becoming the office siren which is I don't know if this is like a Gen Z thing or if it's a millennial thing i don't know what it is but it's become this thing which is like a certain way to dress to basically become the office sexy lady and it's a certain style i don't I don't know a super a lot about it but what has become what has started happening is certain women trying to dress in this very sexy office attire way like certain women are getting fired for it or like reprimanded for it because They they love the aesthetic of it i'm gonna become the office siren the hot girl at the office the hot girl at the office and so they start dressing in you know what is perceived to be an overly provocative way like I don't care how you all dress like dress I'm Yeah wear what you want wear what you want i don't care but that's what's happening um and then the repercussions of it are like for their workplace like you cannot be showing that much of your body or that's not like time and place right like time and place even if there's not a um dress code it's like you still probably can like use like common sense to say maybe that many skirt is way too short for this setting and certain girls are just like not using that common sense and then they're getting fired and being like I don't understand why I'm fired yeah what happened um I find that fascinating because that is like has gone full circle from like the 50s and 60s7s where it was like you were expected to dress sexy at the office yeah that was like the male expectation for women at work was you needed to look good and that was how like in 9 to5 I think of Dolly Parton's character where she's just like vaa voom the whole time but like that was how they wanted you to dress at work and then it's like you know women's lib happened and you know we wanted to wear pants and we don't want to be forced to wear these sexy clothes at work and then now we're Like wait wait we're back yeah well like we're back at the I want to dress sexy at the office like I think it's become a revolution of women feeling objectified we're not going to be objectified anymore and then it turning back to we can wear whatever we want and doesn't matter if you're like you don't get to objectify us we can wear whatever we want like I think you're right it's become like a full but then with men um I feel like men are not getting objectified the way they want or I don't I don't know if they want that but um oh my god that reminds me of an Instagram that I saw last night it was this guy he was he's like do you ever talking to his to a girl he's like do you ever look at men and and go like yeah I'd hit that and she's like oh yeah all the time and then she punches him in the face

like that's the objectification that we gift men i want to punch you in the face we're going to get hate for this i love it um well the the male standard one of the examples I saw was um Suits that's a show I think not a movie oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and um just the it's literally built around the idea of the credibility in wearing sharp suits um and I thought that was kind of an interesting example and how certain I mean here I think Bill and Tim generally dress really nice i think when the remote guys visit they all we have sharp dressers always dress really nice like the men here really like to dress really nice i think it's pretty rare that they dress casual but um it's not again it's not like we they're required to wear suits and I don't think that they should i feel like that would be a little I think it's nice when me for like if we're going to take a client out for a client lunch or a meet and greet or whatever like the jeans blazer button-up shirt dress shoes look yeah is fully acceptable and sufficient for you know you don't need to wear a suit in my opinion yeah but that's just my opinion so how do you think like if you're not a person that's if you're not a person that's generally a dress up type how could you still either learn to learn to be or or show up appropriately or like um yeah anything along those lines in order to have a good appearance to That's a really good question i like that question a lot because I think if you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning and you say to yourself would my clients trust me if they saw me you know like do I look like someone who knows what I'm doing like if I saw me would I be like "Oh no i don't want them to handle my portfolio." You know what I mean like I'm not going to give them tens of thousands of my money to invest you know things like that it's like do you look credible do you look knowledgeable do you look like you can handle your stuff like do you look like you can do your job y so and if you're looking in the mirror and you're like I don't know like if I saw someone you know that looked like what I'm wearing like would I trust that person to accomplish something on their own or would I want them to manage my hedge fund or I don't you know what I mean like there's just it's comes with the territory of the work fashion environment I guess yeah i think any person is can i don't think you have to change who you are i think any personality type is capable of good hygiene for one um and just not being sloppy i don't think if you're if you're a person that doesn't like wearing makeup you don't have to wear makeup but you can still brush your teeth and brush your hair and you know make sure your face is okay put I don't know put on chapstick whatever it is so that you look presentable and you know you don't have to devil's product buy couture clothing but you can have you can wear clothing that's not you know ripped and stained and too big or too small for you um I I think those are basic like principles that anybody can live by um and then I think it makes sense to me if you're you're you're dressing you're dressing for the occasion right so like if you're in a casual environment you dress more casual if you're in a business environment you dress more business so maybe like at the office you wouldn't be wearing a a a graphic tea or or sweatshirt that was overly overly casual i don't know so you you you'd pick for the occasion right like you were talking about if you're going out for a business dinner you might dress up more like nice you know we're not the men aren't wearing suits here cuz that's too nice yeah it's it's not really the it's not the vibe you know like lawyers should wear suits because they're going before a judge like and they're you know you want to be uber professional when you're going before you know I I don't can't think of the word i'm having a the judge yeah the judge but like you know like you wouldn't wear your sweats if you had an interview with the president right right you know or someone someone important like that so or if you have a court date you don't want to show up like in your PJs for your still show up in your own style you don't have to be someone that you're not you just need to be presentable yeah and I think that's the the fine balance of work wear is being yourself while being professional because it's like it's a tough balancing act especially for if you're not into fashion you know whatever but I don't think you necessarily have to be into fashion to look nice at the office or at least look professional anyway and as we know I'm all about accessorizing i believe in an accessory i'm like earrings is up and tinsel in my hair and fake nails when I can i'm just like I think a little goes a long way with just like it does whatever it does i don't know how men accessorize i'm not I'm not a man i don't know i don't know belts watches watches i would definitely say cuz Aaron loves a cool watch like that's definitely one way for men to accessorize and like if you wear a tie like if you're in a situation where like you need to wear a tie to the office like ties can be cool men how are you accessorizing yeah let us know educate us obviously we're not like in the Carrie Grant days of wearing a suit and a hat right everywhere we go a pocket square pocket square my handkerchief um what are those things called that hold your socks up that they used to wear i don't know it's like a garter belt for your ankle any men out there still wearing those still rocking the anchor ankle garter belt gentlemen you know what i bet Bill's Bill is pretty good at like He likes fun fashion things yes he does what was that jacket he wore the other day that was like brocade um Oh to Pima yeah yeah okay let's put a photo photo of that up yeah um so that jacket he originally got I believe for our Pointy Awards night for our 10th anniversary and he wore that for our awards night and so I think he's always looking for an excuse to pull it back out it was great it was like gold um gold and kind of bronze brocade shiny glittery suit jacket with like what a black I think it was a black collar i can't I don't think it was black but anyway yeah he looked like he was hosting an award show or something and he that is what he got it for that's what he got it for yeah no he loves a he loves a reason to get dressed up nice he loves his like bow ties and all kinds of little things like that so an ascot whatever like he likes that kind of stuff so again I think that just circles back to just like whatever it is that's you yeah yeah like it doesn't it doesn't look bizarre if you're dressing for No one is like freaked out when I show up here in fur anymore cuz they're just like that's who Christy is but you know I think for someone else they you know they might be like oh you wearing fur now yeah i think that fake fur fake fur fake fur yes no paint throwing don't throw blood on me um but yeah I think that's the key is are you comfortable in it mhm like if you're comfortable in what you're wearing then you're going to exude confidence but if you're like even if it's a really nice outfit but you're so uncomfortable wearing it that's going to come out in your demeanor and it's not going to go well like so you know just make sure you're comfortable be you but don't be sloppy i think that's the ultimate goal yeah do you notice that you treat you treat people differently based on how they're dressed i'm sure I do i don't want to admit that I do but I'm sure I do i'm sure I do too cuz it's like one of those things where like even if you're consciously aware of it or not i Yeah I think it is it's got to be something that we do because it's just how we're raised in this country like how you look is very important but um and I think just people act based on how they're dressed so it's not even like a necessarily me thing it's like a I'm following up based on how they are now acting because they're dressed nicer or more casually yeah i think um the Silicon Valley tech sector kind of also kind of flipped work fashion on its head in the sense that like you know instead of wearing suits to the office tech nerd guys were like showing up in sneakers and jeans and a t-shirt and very casual and they're just like oh you don't have to wear a suit to be smart right so like there's that part of it too where it's like it can be anything you want it to be i feel like it just needs to be jeans sneakers and a t-shirt can also look nice just don't wear sloppy ones you know what I mean like even guys that like show up to Silicon Valley jobs and they're dressed casually they don't look homeless yeah right you know um or like they were left on a desert island for for a year right so um yeah for me I think that's the key is just being comfortable being confident and

that's professional whatever that means to you yeah you know what I do to pick out my outfits what i have pictures i take pictures of myself in outfits and then I put them in a in an album in my phone no you don't yeah I do so then that way it's very um clueless clueless it's very clueless clueless it's very clueless so then that way like like almost every night if I like am like I don't know what to wear tomorrow i did that with this i flip through like I could wear that or I could wear that or I could wear that that's genius that's I feel like that's a really good tip take pictures of yourself in your outfits yeah there you go and then keep them in an album on your phone that's so funny and then be like "Oh because you forget about what you have." I know it's so true or what pairs together for women especially men are blessed and just can put on anything and look amazing and you're not part of this they can shave not shave they look beautiful either way you're not part of this but for women it's like we have a different body every single day yes we do and some days constantly some days I want to be more comfortable or more warm or whatever and so knowing like last night knowing today I was gonna podcast and wanted to look nicer knowing that I wanted to be slightly more comfortable because I was in more pain and knowing that it was going to be colder today I knew that these would be more comfortable but also dressy and a little bit warmer and I knew that it would pair well with this and so I just flipped through super smart i love that idea i've never done that but I do um have Pinterest boards just for um business c I have a business casual board and then I also have like color pairing boards like what colors go well together so like if I pull something out of the closet and I'm like I want to wear this but I don't know what other color I should wear with it or what I have that would go and that helps a lot because then I can flip through and be like "Oh okay i have this it's that color that could work." Yeah you know so yeah I've got the old school whatever pinterest boards for No I love it i love it i think it's too abstract for me cuz I'm like I love this outfit on Pinterest but I'm like but I don't have it right so I'm like I don't Well that's why I like the color but see that's why I like the colors because it's literally just circles of colors that go together on a post but I have that color shirt and I have that color pants or I have this color skirt and that top will work with it you know no that's a great idea so then it's not like oh I wish I had that outfit that I can't afford right it's like okay I have this color and I have this color that works yeah smart yeah whatever works whatever works guys whatever works i feel like we really went good into this topic i feel I feel good about it i I feel really good about it i think it's cool too that companies have changed a lot over the years with how rules with how the rules have morphed and changed too because you know really it was like back in the day it was like one work wear uniform it was like men wore suits women wore dresses or pants suits or whatever at a certain point were able to wear Yeah yeah but I feel like the companies clothing companies have also stepped it up to be like "Okay here's a new take on work wear here's a a new way we could style ourselves at the office without having to you know still look like it's the 1950s." Yeah so they've stepped it up thank you commercialism

we appreciate the progression yes thanks for keeping up um well I have a get to know the team member fact for you before we end i've been I've been better about keeping up with this i'm try I'm trying so hard it's I don't know why it's been so difficult you totally stumped me the last time a thousand people work here it should not be that hard to get facts about people um okay you ready for this fact okay what who which team member my first pet's name was Carmichael it was a cat a cat there's no answer but Oh come on you get to guess

their first pet's name was Carmichael and it was a cat mark nope

kevin no maddie nope erica nope i I don't I have no clue okay it is a super obscure person super obscure shalami nope that was a good guess um Rachel nope i I'm just going to name everyone at the company and I'm afraid you're not going to think is it a man or a woman it's a woman okay

christina no yuri no so this game has become name every person name every person that works for Cy you stumped me again i really have no clue um this person doesn't really work here they um

are they a freelancer

they pay our paychecks amanda I have no I have no idea how else to describe it that Yeah feels unfair that does is that's so true because she really does work with us but like we never see her she's like she's the um the wizard behind the the Wizard of Oz amanda Amanda's the Wizard of Oz yes she's pulling the strings and the levers behind the scenes she's crucial to this operation yeah we would all fall apart without her but I don't It's like Yeah it's just kind of like that's the only thing she does so it's kind of like do we I don't even know if she's in the super sepoint chat i don't think she is and so it's kind of like she doesn't want to listen to all of our shenanigans all day long she's not she's got more important things to do she's Anyway it was Amanda her first her first that's a very cute name i love that name Carmichael yeah so well you stumped me again yeah well it was Christina and which is also her sister so I Good moving forward whoever else uh there will probably be more you know Amanda facts because you know she's hard to guess well and also just them being sisters christine and Christina's one finding all my facts for me she's got all the dirt she's got all the dirt on her sister so yeah good everyone you're going to learn the ins and outs of these people that work here just in really random ways like what their first pet's name was so um yeah well thank you for this delightful conversation as always popular you're popular on this podcast so I think that you have to just keep coming back the people love Anna so yeah so leave in the comments like what we should do next hey if you think of an outfit we should wear for next time that you could be we could do a choose our outfit for the podcast if you put it in the comments oh I'm picturing like getting up changing coming back no no i mean like I mean like comment down below today what we should wear next time gotcha i'm like oh that's going to be an active podcast that we'll get tire put up a curtain yeah no no I'm not talking quick change artist stuff here i'm just saying like the the audience chooses our outfit maybe you have all the power you have all the power okay okay we'll see you guys next time bye