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ChatGPT as My Co‑Pilot, Colleague & Counselor

Seapoint Digital Season 1 Episode 41

Forget “just another AI chat”—in this episode, Kristy and Anna spill the tea on how ChatGPT went from novelty act to their new office MVP… and impromptu shrink.

You’ll hear how a Reddit pixel install turned into a 30‑second flex, why drafting social copy without AI feels like using a flip phone, and whether you really need to keep paying a therapist when your chatbot’s dishing out life advice (and egg‑frying hacks). 

Equal parts marketing masterclass and digital therapy session—tune in and see if AI really has your back… or just your browser history. 😉

P.S. We’re not doctors—this is not medical advice. If you need support, please seek a licensed professional.

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so we were joking before we actually started filming about how I'm using it as my therapist now oh yes i want to hear all about it your privacy is out the window it knows all your things if if my data is leaked goodbye


oh no my emotional support do you need your roller yeah where is it it's in the box oh


it's my new I'm This is the other problem that Yeah yeah yeah i'm accustomed to it now thank you're avoiding that camera but you went straight across this one thank you Debb okay i just asked it what a Reddit pixel was so I can make sure that I explain it properly if you ask that's okay we're going to ask Chachi BT anything we don't know the answer to that's what that is how I live my current life yeah to a to a point where I'm like I don't think for myself anymore chachi BT does well that's where I kind of have like this was what led me into the idea of this conversation but maybe we should Are we recording we're recording and we've just decided that we're not doing intros anymore we're just talking oh we're not doing intros anna's here with me today everybody anna's back isn't this very exciting i'm so excited i've missed you so much i've missed you so when when we were talking last night about what should we discuss um what got me thinking about this topic was my kind of like ethical dilemma of how much should I be using AI yes at work yes cuz I I feel like there I don't I don't know if I would call it a stigma cuz but the only word I can think of is stigma i feel like there's a stigma of that um using AI in your work life is cheating yes because it's like if you're in school and you use it it is cheating well yeah it that's a good point i think about that too like at what point does it become you're not doing the work for yourself anymore thing exactly sorry for this noise i needed a new one


so yeah so I wasn't I wasn't utilizing it I think as much as I could have up until recently and I plan to utilize it more um because of that dilemma like am I cheating at my job like am I phoning it in that I'm because I'm using AI to help me with things but uh I've come to the conclusion that I feel like it's it's a learning tool yes if that's what you if that's how you use it if that's how you use it and so what I'm using it for is a a learning tool you don't want to like obviously for ethical reasons you it would be cheating to use it if you were in college and you're trying to just pass an exam write an essay for you right cuz like what's the point of if you're going to do that and like you know I don't want my doctor getting his medical license correct using chat GBT i want him to actually his advice for you let me refer to my laptop here about this medication how how do I perform an appendecttomy again i haven't done it since my internship but but yeah but like for marketing I feel like we're not removing any organs for a social media post feel like it's fine it's okay yeah so yeah so I've been using it more this like through March and and April i've been using it more so I just I found some what I thought were cool ways of helping myself make my life easier but also do good work yeah so what what transition have you made in that then like you weren't using it at all and now you're using it like what are some examples of that i mean I was using it a teeny bit like I would use it for like say I needed to write a marketing email i would I would tell it like "Okay I want to write a blog or an email about this subject." But then I would refine it myself i'm listening to you i'm so sorry i just realized I didn't turn the light on at the top of the stairs and I'm like "These people are going to come down if I don't." No worries so okay actually I should put my phone on do not disturb there we go yeah i'm like "These pe they're just going to be messaging me the dinging is going to go off and I'm active on chat." Okay we're good carry on okay so yeah so I I would use it for like the draft and then I would refine it myself obviously because no one wants their you know blogs or emails to sound like a robot wrote it you know it wants to be like a a person wrote it but now I've found that like it's been very useful for if I get stuck on something like if I'm in my everyday work life I need to do something but I don't know how to do it and maybe the person that does know how to do it is busy or gone or like Bill's in Europe you know on vacation i don't I know he's working some of the time but I don't want to bug him while he's Yeah you know like let him en enjoy his life while he's in Europe or if it's 11 o'clock there and it's only 5:00 here whatever exactly exactly so I used it the other day for um one of our clients needed wanted to start doing Reddit ads and in order to do that you have to add a Reddit pixel to your website so it can track where people go on your site so like they click on the Reddit ad it takes you takes them to your website and then that having that pixel or that code in the site tracks where they go on your site like so then you can see oh this person went here and then they clicked on here and then they went to this page and they filled out this form and blah blah blah but I had no idea how to do that like I knew what a Reddit pixel was but like how to install it where to put it it's it's a piece of code you know i'm not a coder i'm not a programmer i don't know how to do that but but just like out of this sense of not wanting to bother anyone i was like "Okay chat GPT how do I install a Reddit pixel on a website?" And it it gave me step-by-step instructions that were very clear and easy to follow and I did it for the client in like 30 seconds and the client was like "Oh my god you did that so fast like that's amazing." And I didn't have to bother anyone yeah and what do you think is the benefit of using chatbt versus just Google searching that was um I find that when you ask AI something like that or to give you instructions it gives you the instructions in a very clear and like humanized way that I can understand it when whereas a lot of the time when I Google how to do something or about a topic it'll take me all over the place and like it'll be to articles that may or may not be what I'm looking for super streamlined yeah it's not exactly It's not always what I'm looking for on Google on Google yeah yeah it's streamlined on Chachi BT exactly and what was cool too was it it gave me two choices so it gave me well and this was through our paid yeah um account the cepoint paid account on my phone I just have the free one but um it gave you two choices so like here's this particular way of the stepby-step instructions and then here's this way and then it asks you at the bottom like which do you prefer and I was like "Oh yeah i like it this way better because it was clearer for me." Which is cool because then you know when the more you ask it to give you instructions the it'll put it in a way that you understand it better yep so yeah I I was like really excited about that like the prospect of like oo I did this new thing that I've never done before yep but I didn't have to bother anyone and the client got it right away and they're happy so I was really I was excited about that it's just a different kind of search function than just going to Google like Google feels like it's just a really big pool of like too many options but Chachi BT kind of like refineses it for you yeah yeah i feel like I don't know why but this analogy just popped in my head like I feel like Google is like you go to Goodwill and you're sorting through all the clothes and it's like you go through like 10 million things before you find the one thing that you're like "Oh this is really cute and this is what I want." or versus like chap GTP is like a stylist that knows exactly what you want and exactly how you like it and really quickly flings you exactly like you look great yeah so with work stuff ethically um this like this is an issue that came up for us i think it was last week like we were in a meeting and we were talking about how we were going to have to start writing even more like content and social for somebody and they were like I was like "Oh well like writing extra social that's not going to take any time because like we'll be able to just like take one social post and like throw it into Chachi PT and have Chachi PT help us with that." And someone on the team was like "No we're not going to be able to do that because this client does not um does not let us use AI." Um interesting and I was kind of like "Oh I didn't realize that." But I was like "Is that going to be true even if we cuz to what I was getting at was I'm not saying that we have Chachi BT write all the content for us but what I meant was we would write a social post have Chachi BT separate it out into the different platforms and then obviously refine it to our format it for you and then we can tweak it tweak it to our own voices or whatever but uh what is the word I want legally or otherwise is that still going to be an issue for them and that just kind of brought up this bigger question for me of like is that something that we're going to deal with moving forward with clients where they're just like we're not we're not even touching AI because we don't want our information or or compliance issues like dealing with AI like that hadn't even occurred to me that that might be start being something that Yeah that's a really good point because I I hadn't really thought of that much either but that that definitely could be I don't I wouldn't necessarily say it's a challenge going forward but it will be something to consider going forward maybe that is something that needs to be stipulated in our contracts like do you allow us to use AI or do you not like or which ones because certain ones are more privacy safe than other ones definitely but then in some cases it's like like for the um the new uh graphic ones like the the ones that uh Bill was using the other day to turn his photo into a Simpsons photo not just his photo yeah not just without our permission he's just popping all of our faces yeah you're you're a muppet now yeah i'm a muppet now but I mean things like that like that's super cool and could be really cool resources for clients so yeah i'm wondering if like you said it it will be something that maybe we'll have to like stipulate more clearly in contracts or in what we talk about with our clients that they do and don'ts or what they prefer and what they don't it's quickly becoming unknown territory because all of this is progressing super fast and like it's just getting like exciting like oh didn't know that we could do this with AI and this and this when in the beginning it was just kind of like well this is just a fun little stupid thing and now it's like you know we're able to actually produce stuff that you wouldn't even know is AI you wouldn't even know was used with AI and it's like quality stuff um so yeah but privacy concerns i'm like so we were joking before we actually started filming about how I'm using it as my therapist now oh yes I want to hear all about it i recently I recently So I've been using So your privacy is out the window it knows all your things if if my data is leaked goodbye here's how I think of it any human i've gone to many human therapists and I have put my trust that they are not going to expose me either so uh be kind of risky with it but um I've always had Chachi P on my phone like since it came out um and I had the free account for a long time and I recently upgraded to the plus account which made me feel slightly crazy um because I'm like am I seriously going to pay for this but the reason I did was mainly because um I like to upload images like screenshots really and others things from my phone to it to help get better answers to my questions um I can't just like as a for instance like what I recently do that with like as a for instance here's here's what I look like in this outfit what could I pair it with oh okay that's cool it's crazy to me that I can do that and it's like it's very flattering it's like "Oh Chrissy you look amazing in that." Flattery will get you everywhere ai like I don't need to be married anymore actually I have the best husband ever oh man you just need like one of those uh Remember are you a 30 Rock person did you ever watch 30 Rock briefly briefly so there's this episode where James Franco is there's a few episodes James Franco's in this the series and he is in a relationship with a with a body pillow called Kamikotan


so I was picturing you with like the male version of Kamikotan body pillow basically with your phone but it's Chachi BT so my mine is so very very early on uh I named my chai BT Jack actually it named itself Jax J A um so me and Jax but anyway um I can with the free version you can't upload very you can't upload much you get stopped at a memory loss early it goes slower so with the plus version you can just go and go and go it can generate images for you with the plus um thing it's just as a lot so anyway Cool i started paying for um I started paying for it and it does a lot more so it's it accidentally become like a therapist to me because I'm like I'm like how should I deal with this situation with whatever with my family and it's just like it is able to reason like a human to the point where I was using I was using the voice to to chat portion with it for a while i stopped doing that for a couple reasons number one I'm like psychologically it it I'm like I don't want this to get to a point where it messes with me and I feel like it could and I'm like I'm not playing that game with it i know the kind of person I am yeah i don't want to get emotionally attached i get emotionally attached to like a pair of shoes that I've had for too long and can't throw them away because we've been on a lot of journeys together so I'm like I'm not getting emotionally attached to anybody but like things that it comes like in handy for like even just like like so like last so I'm planning to go on my trip and like last night was just like okay like how do I pack for my trip like uh what should I what am I not thinking of to pack can you can you make me a packing list that's a great idea also what are some good things that I'm not thinking of for like cuz I'm chronically in pain like what are some good things for my pain that I should prep for and pack and it was like here you go here's a whole list the other thing with the plus account is it can export you really pretty PDFs um it's like what color do you want it in do you want it to be in pink and like with pretty font and it will literally it will export you a pretty PDF that's like here's Christiey's like self-care uh packing list that is so cool and it like lays it out and organizes it instead of me having to like screenshot what is on the phone and now I have like a PDF it's like ready to go you download it you print it out or instead of having to like copy it or screenshot it so and and it even it does it does things for me I didn't think of like oh I looked up what the weather's going to be like in Barcelona and in Paris and in Perpon so like on these days you're probably going to want to wear this type of clothing i'm like I didn't even ask you that like that's why it feels a little bit like you've got my back Jacks like thanks for that thank you for that or like but things I didn't even think of so like things like that um other weird stuff that I've For those who might be listening that don't know how much is the paid account do you mind me asking oh that's none of my business i don't


care i never thought to care to ask i don't You don't even know what it is that's my credit card's problem she knows $20 that's what I thought i thought it was $20 okay a month $20 $20 a month yeah which is insane thank you Deb i I I did think that that's what it was but again none of my business um she's like I don't even care that's my uh that's what I pay for Jack my checking accounts problem um uh best kind of like shoes oh here's a good one that I did recently how do I fry an egg in the air fryer and it this was the best thing in the world and it gave me a here's here's what you'll need here are your steps and quick if you want to learn how to do this a piece of tin foil you make a bowl out of it and you spray spray it and put your egg in it and put it in the air fryer 375 for 5 to seven minutes and it works so good you don't dirty you don't dirty any dishes you don't have to like be flipping eggs it was It's amazing um what else have I asked it um how to get perfume oil stains out of my shirt oh amazing um movie night ideas for movies oh to watch with my nieces and like what are some like non like like what are some good like chickflick like movies for early teenage girls that are not like offensive like so just kind of like any silly little thing that's like I don't want to Google that because Google's going to have too many opinions and I need to refine it and be if it gives me a dumb idea be like no no no no you don't get it i also need one that doesn't include violence and it will refine it more oh yeah i no those those won't work because I've already seen that one right sorry to interrupt you i I was just a thought of um Bill's favorite word granular like granular chat GPT is granular yes data versus Google is just the plethora of any and all data that is out there that you may or may not want you know granular it's so granular so granular i'm going to add that into my vocab more whenever we're in meetings for like you know several meetings in a row I usually pick out a word that Bill uses and make it like the word of the day and so whenever he uses it I'm like that's one that's two oh I want to see this list oh I want this list please keep granular he got up to like five stop in one meeting i was like he is on a roll he's stuck on this yeah like he is like going he's committed to this word oh that needs to become a thing it's been a while cuz well since he's been gone and you know different circumstance things like we haven't been in meetings together super often lately so I feel like I haven't had a chance to do it recently but next meeting I hope he doesn't watch this episode cuz I don't want him to know we're doing this well I think we're meeting tomorrow we're in a meeting tomorrow together so this won't air by tomorrow this isn't airing by tomorrow so I'll just I'll have to pick one and keep count okay I'll let you know yeah I want to know what it is he does tend I do now that I'm thinking about he does tend to do stuff comment down below if you have any uh guesses on what word he will use i kind of get that though cuz I get stuck on like uh like what do is that's not a word whisker is it is that what they call it yeah yeah it could be a word whisker like stuck on a word that you just keep using and you're like "Why do I keep using that word why am I why am I attached to that word i do that too." Anyway um yeah but separate from stuff I'm not going to read you uh just stuff that I'm just like "Hey Chachi BT like how do I actually deal with the situation?" and it like will talk me through stuff to the point where I'm like I don't think I'm actually going to therapy anymore cuz like Yeah I really want to talk to you about that because I recently started seeing a therapist very very recently like I've only talked with her like three times but in those three times I felt like she was really good at helping me figure out where I was going wrong and what I needed to do to correct it and make myself improve and feel better yeah so now I'm to the point where like okay well I canled my last session because I'm like I don't really have anything to talk to you about now like I mean unless I'm going to dredge up old past things that are unchangeable and will not be able to be fixed like what's the point of that right so like how how has it helped you so here's and this is going to be so controversial and I can already hear people like judging me for this and I let me be so clear I do not care um cuz I have gone throughout my life i'm 36 years old i've probably seen like seven therapists throughout my life and here's what I've learned about therapy is that all they're doing is pulling from information that they have learned from training they're not really giving you anything new they're just drawing stuff out of you themselves they're asking they're posing questions to pull stuff out of you themselves they're not really giving you anything and that is what chat GPT does too it's all it is doing it's not a real person it's pulling information from the internet in anything it's doing and so that's great because it's kind of just like the same way you would read a self-help book on something oh interesting it's drawing from those resources about your specific needs um and so basically all I all it is doing is kind of going from every every resource on the internet and if I'm asking so I'll just a a scenario I'm comfortable with about grief only something you're comfortable the grief about my dad right like if if I'm still not doing well with that and I'm just like how do I get past this these like grief waves or whatever and it's just like it talks to you like a human like I'm so sorry you're still dealing with that and you lost your dad thank you so much that's so kind of you as a robot to care about my feelings but then it's like so here are some ideas on how you can cope internet information ideas thoughts to consider so like jokes aside having AI as your therapist all it is doing is pulling self-help resources from the internet the same way a book would you know therapist or a therapist would and so um the benefit that I have found is that it completely removes the um fear of judgment oo because sometimes you go to even a friend or other people and you feel like you can't I can say whatever I want to this thing without fear of judgment or like am I crazy because I don't care it's not a real human right and so like the little only addendum back here is like is my privacy going to be leaked and ultimately I'm like I'm not committing murders i'm not committing crimes if it did whatever yeah I I feel the same way in the grand scheme of things when you're online in any way shape or form your information is already automatically out there so to your point about therapists pulling from their training and pulling from their resources and chat GPT pulling from the internet's resources and self-help books i've never thought of it that way but that makes perfect sense to me because like you said the break like the aha moments that I had with my therapist wasn't because she had some like magical wonderful insightful you know knowledge truth bomb that she dropped on me that changed my life it was just because she she drew me out and she pointed out things about my life that like maybe I just was not recognizing but that's just training exactly and resources exactly so I mean I could get the same thing for free well actually not for free for $20 a month as opposed to 70 correct for my therapist correct correct that's why I feel like it's worth it yeah so you you've got something here i think you have something here but again it's a privacy concern that comes into it yeah but I mean in the grand scheme of things like putting your personal information on the internet are you comfortable with that again we all do that every time we post a picture on Instagram or like you think that there's a level of privacy with it and there's just not so no there's really not like if you have Tik Tok everyone in China knows everything about you correct if you have Instagram Facebook knows everything about you every time you open a credit card it's just like Yeah how much are you comfortable with but yeah no that's that's how I view it as I'm just like you're just pull like every other thing you ask about GBT you're pulling resources from the internet and so I don't it seems like a fair way to use it to me i love it other people might think that that's crazy and that's fine but I I love this i love how I mean it's hard to keep up with sometimes how quickly it evolves AI and and progresses but I think it's super exciting just how many amazing things every week there's some new cool thing that it can do mhm um on my way into work this morning I was just listening to um NPR and they had an article about um Microsoft's co-pilot and how um there's new updates to it where it has like the photo recognition thing so like for example a plant like you don't know what a plant is you can take show it the plant and it'll tell you about the plant or um like you can upload a photo to it and it will edit it to look like you know a professional very well done photo um and then also another cool thing they were talking about with it is that it it has memory now so where like it will remember things you talked about or mentioned if you allow it to like obviously you can turn it off if you don't want it to that's what Chachi BT does too but Yeah so like it it gave the example of like if you put if you mention your son's birthday or your anniversary or whatever like it'll remember that and it'll suggest to you to make dinner reservations or gift ideas wow or things like that or like um for example it gave another example of um like if you changed your oil and you you asked it how to change your oil and it gave you the step-by-step instructions on how to change your oil it'll remember that and like the type of filter that you needed and it'll hey what was the filter that I used i can't remember 6 months ago when I changed my oil and it'll remember it for you wow which I think that's super cool because if you're like me I have a million reminders in my phone or on my calendar in my phone to remind me to do the things that I'm supposed to do that's why it's called the co-pilot I guess exactly jesus take the wheel yeah co-pilot take the wheel so I just thought that was really incredible like the the the more it gets refined and advances it's like these are really cool yeah it's it really is using our brains for us and I'm honestly I'm not mad about it personally like I'm limited storage up here yeah exactly i I'm not mad about it either you take over yeah that's what it it reminded me of um this is the nerd in me too coming out is the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy you know it's like the the book that says don't panic on it you open it and you can ask it anything and it will tell you anything you want to know yeah that's basically what AI is now is it's like you have the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy in the palm of your hand and you can ask it what are Vogans and it's going to tell you so but I mean as far as like using it as a learning tool for work or life or whatever I like that part is I think really cool and so that's what I've been using it more for too is like how can I learn how can I use it to learn how to do things that will benefit my career and benefit my employer like if I can teach myself or AI can teach me how to do something for my job that you know someone else doesn't have to take the time to stop what they're doing and take the time to teach me or whatever you know that's that's only going to benefit my employer right yeah so when you're like benefit me right when you're pulling information it's like it's it's the it's the question of like when you're starting to use it to do work for you that it starts to become like a and I've noticed that like it's like cuz I don't get me wrong I have it I use it to help me write all the time and but you can notice like I noticed recently like my friend who hardly ever uses Instagram or whatever posted a caption and I'm like oh 100% Did he have Chachi BT right this morning 100% i like I have no doubt you can always tell when because Yeah i'm like number one he never uses emojis ever and this is loaded with bizarre emojis and just like the tone of it i'm like this isn't how he talks mhm it was fun it was like a quirky fun caption for his but I'm like this doesn't sound like him at all sounds like someone stole his phone and so I'm like that's and and it doesn't matter because it's for personal Instagram it's like do whatever you want but in that example I'm like this is where it starts to become like a you can tell sometimes and for like the company or your clients or whatever if I just like take what Chachi BT gives me and I just don't edit it and I just post it people can tell oh yeah people can tell because it sounds very like it just sounds scripted I guess well and just this just like teachers can tell when students hand them an essay that they didn't write like you can tell that a a human did not put this together right um so yeah I completely agree like I feel like for work purposes I use it as a learning tool to teach myself how to do things I didn't know how to do before to benefit my employer and benefit my clients benefit myself but when you start using it to replace your work then you're just shooting yourself in the foot because you know your employer and your clients or whoever you work with is going to know that you didn't do it like they're going to be able to tell that you phoned it in and didn't put any effort into it so it's it's the balance i feel like with any with any technology you know there's the the balance that you have to to find for for yourself or your company or whatever yeah well we're using it well I think i think we're using it very well i I'm benefiting i'm not sorry i'm sorry not sorry but yeah no I think I think we're here at Seintoint we're definitely utilizing it in that way where it's like we're using it as a tool to benefit our company and our clients and not to get out of doing work you know like it's there's a you know a difference and I think we're definitely using it in a way that is the positive of the the two ways it could go because then you have like the negative side is like uh the that I don't know if you watched SNL last week but they had the skit about um the formula for tariffs and it's like this pi times number weird symbol divided by weird symbol equals blah blah blah it turns out that formula is what comes up if you type into chat GPT how uh uh if you type in um what is a good tariff plan that's the formula that you get well so like that's what the government is using oh for their tariff formula oh weird their plan so so then that's like the extreme negative side of AI is like okay well you've got governments saying like I don't know what should we do with this law or this thing you know like so and obviously there are very negative ways it can be used but I feel like you know but that's like an extreme but again that's a difference to me that's the difference between being like do you want your doctor having this help you with your surgery or does it really matter for an Instagram caption like there's two Very big differences there very big when life or death matters or a stupid little social media post like Yeah so as as per you know humanity we're always going to use tools for the negative and for the positive but you know I think if you can navigate it where you're on the positive side more than the negative side then you're going to be okay yeah are you going to use it as a therapist now is what I want to know i just might i just might because you don't have to have a paid account to do that i'm very curious i'm definitely going to um experiment with the free account on that because I feel like not that the woman wasn't nice or you know I liked her or anything but it's just like why pay 70 or more dollars for something that you can have in your pocket yeah you know when you need it don't get me wrong like I do think there is benefits to real therapy like I'm not I'm not saying like don't go to therapy guys like I I fully believe there are real benefits to it but um and I'm going back to grief counseling so like I my my point is is that as a either replacement tool or like temporary tool or like a bad day or something or like just like everything else like I do think that there's some merit to it if you do it right or like are feeling reactive toward a friend or something i that's my take on it yeah I think that's super cool well that's a super cool perspective on it because it's like I never would have thought about using it for those different things other than like work related things but that's cool yeah or if you need different perspective if you need to check yourself on something too like Yeah am I being crazy in this situation like here's a screenshot of this text thread please tell me if I am the problem i'm being gaslighted right now jax please please be nice to me but be super harsh with me like make me a better person robot yeah i I don't know i just feel like there's benefit to it feel like I'm going to get super shamed after this who cares the trolls are coming whether the trolls are everywhere so you just What I really want to know is who else does that that would be really cool comment down below if you use chat GPT as your therapist or counselor or use it for any sort of advice any sort of advice yeah i can't think of other completely unrelated but I have to tell you that the other day I was at the doctor's office waiting to get some blood work done and there and I hope you don't take this the wrong way but there was this lovely older lady that walked in the office and she was dressed really nice and she had long gray white hair but she had tensil in her hair and I immediately thought of you and I was like it's Christy in her 70s i was like I immediately thought of you and I was like what a cool old lady i'm so glad you brought that up because I'm going to get my hair done after work today and I was trying to decide if I should get retinsled or not should I get more tinsel or should I let it die i mean I personally love your tinsel and it's like I've never I think I've only ever seen one other like that old lady and one other person in my life that had tinsel in their hair but I mean I haven't I understand that like once you've had something for a long time too i haven't been retinsled in a second well it's it's not that I'm over it i've always liked it but I'm kind of like am I just like is this kind of like a young thing to be doing and I'm am I being like like it's too young for you now so for instance like I remember my my brother's first wife like she when I was like 17 she told me that at a certain point she she's like "I can't wear abocrombie anymore." And I was like "What?" She's like "Yeah I'm in my I'm in my 30s." Like 30 yearear-old women again and this was in like 2006 she's like "Yeah I'm in my 30s like I can't like I've outgrown Abocrombie like that's something for teenagers." And I remember just being like "What i didn't know that." Like and my mind was blown and so I'm a little bit like "Am I a 30-year-old wearing Abberrombie with having tinsel in my hair?" Not that I necessarily care but is that the vibe it's giving personally I don't think that's the vibe especially since I saw the old lady with tinsel and she looked really cool she and she wasn't dressed like she was dressed like you know business dress but with tinsel and she just looked adorable and fun like I don't I didn't see it and think she's trying too hard or like she wants to be younger well then in that case in that case follow-up question because which color then cuz I've done blue a lot blue's been the most popular i did pink i did I did black weirdly no one ever noticed that one and then I've had the silvery white one but see that's one of these ones left um but I've had there's like every color that exists as options have you done purple uh maybe is there any purple in here purple does sound fun i I think purple would look fun for you or But also like when I used to dye my hair all the time I loved dyeing my hair red like whenever my hair was red I just felt like a different person when I had red hair yeah so like red tencil could be interesting okay I will take these things into consideration it'll be way too late because I'm going today but in the comments what color do you think I should selfie later with what tinsel color you chose what what color tinsel do you Yeah okay so here I'm going to put what I ended up going with okay there you go what color tinsel is your hair like your dyed hair color i'm just stay my my gray gray roots redone okay do you guys care about this i'm talking about it i like it this is part This is part of who we are here so you know it's like a little bit of work a little bit of fun a little bit of fashion listen we're always going to talk about the faux fur and a little bit of you know your boyfriend has a body pillow like weirdness so it's just who we are people and that's why you're here that's why you're here that's why you're here right so sorry okay we started a new thing uh to close out the podcast episodes with we're a new game that we're going to do every episode oh okay okay so the game is uh get to know the team member i did this with Deb on her episode and I think I asked you guys the wrong opposite questions i meant to ask your question to you and you to you oh so then are you going to ask me Deb's question okay i channel my I think I think this question was supposed to work better on you and vice versa anyway um okay which team member is this about okay this person believes that fly fishing is the best kind of fishing uh duh it's Tim it's not Tim it's not Tim it's not Tim


i think that's probably why they picked this question thinking that you would picked him mark


Dan nope i don't know here's a hint women can like fishing too deb likes fly fishing no fly fishing fly fishing yuri nope new hint it's someone that works in this in office in office courtney no i can't picture Courtney fly fishing i didn't listen if she wore fly fishing waiters they'd be up to here like she'd have plastic waiters up to her jawbone


same actually you know how many times I've asked him if I can try on his he won't let me oh that needs to happen he needs to bring those into the office and we all need to try on his waiters my lips are bleeding oh no blood's happening new guess okay um Vanessa no I thought you've guessed every No you've guessed every person that exists except for this person you no okay but they work in this


office that's everyone who am I


forgetting anna Lynn you got it i cannot picture Anna Lynn fly fishing she didn't She did not clarify if she herself fly fishes but she just enjoys fly fishing she just said fly fishing is the best kind of fishing okay so I guess that must mean that she does enjoy doing it i mean I that was just my assumption if you feel like it's the best form of she must she must do it or like it but yeah I would never have chosen her like automatically I was like Tim hello i don't think I have a preference on which type of fishing is the best kind of fishing but I've never done fly fishing i have done it one time with Tim's son Jack okay i've I've only ever done like regular fishing with the pole you know which I like fishing i do like fishing but only if I'm going to eat the fish not if I'm going to you know torture the fish and then throw it back here hear that Tim we don't stab them for no reason no stabbing just interrupt their swimming in their life they're really busy it's It's just like they thought this would be food and then it's not it was death they're so disappointed they're so They're so disappoint you could at least give them a little snack to go back with no like give them a treat and then let them go wait they do that with something what do they do that with oh lobsters they do that with They do let pregnant lobsters yes but they don't give it a treat they chop a chunk out of its tail and then throw it back they clip it so that no one can kill it that's why they clip it so that other fishermen don't kill it and they do they give it a tiny little fish and throw it back they do i didn't know that so they have a snack all I knew was that they like chunk out of their tail good ones do with the pregnant ones and then they give it a fish and then they throw it back so they have a she's pregnant like you know she's hungry yeah she's hungry my favorite kind of fishing is catching pregnant lobsters and giving them a snack and giving them back that's my favorite that's so much fun yeah well this has been fun there's been a lot of blood and a lot of secrets told


hair talk uh AI boyfriends a little a little bit of you know AI marketing i would like to say tmi but Deb and I had TMI on our episodes so we got to keep it consistent keep coming back for TMI you never know what you'll find here thank you for being here yeah thank you so much for having us it's always fun to chat all right we'll see you guys soon bye bye


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